The Occidental Observer, an intellectual web magazine that follows Prof. Kevin MacDonald´s political line, analyses the possibility of allying with Jews to advance the European American racial cause. The first impression is that of intelligence and awareness, the arguments are clearly set out and well reasoned. As with all Prof. MacDonald´s writings, he is so brilliant that it takes (for me) a long meditation to understand what he is saying. I¨ll let his message mature in the back of my mind.
If I understand him correctly, he wants to re-institute an openly and explicitly pro-European intellectual climate, which was the rule from the start of colonialism in Europe (Rudyard Kipling being his known exponent) till the post world war II sea change. He thinks Jews caused this change and did it for their own ethnic interest: they felt menaced by European racism and were its main victims, so they caused Europeans to become minorities in their own countries and to dilute their racial purity by mixing them with other races. MacDonald want to turn the wheel back and asks if Jews can be his allies in this reactionary project. After all, we Ashkenazi Jews have our origins in Europe, we look Northern Europeans and more than 40% of our genes are pure European.
My first reaction is to compare our situation before and now. Before, Jews were not accepted in universities nor country clubs; today they lead those institutions. The contrast is most clearcut in Europe itself, there the issue was not about being blackballed at boring country clubs but being put on bonded trains to Auschwitz. I would say a mentally healthy Jews should not be allies of White Racists, on the contrary. But that is a first reaction, I need to think it over more deeply.
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My first reaction is to compare our situation before and now. Before, Jews were not accepted in universities nor country clubs; today they lead those institutions. The contrast is most clearcut in Europe itself, there the issue was not about being blackballed at boring country clubs but being put on bonded trains to Auschwitz.
One of the mistakes American Jews make is to confuse the situation here and in Europe. A country that lets you set up your own universitites (Brandeis) while allwing private institutions to exclude Jews (Harvard) is a lot different than Nazi Germany.
If Jews have the power to destroy a country and the motivation to do so even when there is no evidence of large scale violence against Jews then any country wanting to ensure its' survival should not let them in. Besides, anti-Semitic Europe is still a lot Whiter than the USA and Germany is still almost entirely White. On the other hand, philosemitic America is going down the tubes.
White Evangelical Protestants are the most Zionist group of Gentiles in America. What group is most villified by America's Jewish press and universities? White Evangelical Protestants.
What is the point of supporting and harboring a group that will only reward you with disposession and mongelization?
The project to disposses America's founding White Protestant majority was originally a Catholic one, but since their arrival Jews have both assisted and made such a project their own. Most anti-Semites seem blind to how deep the RCC is in the destruction of America. Obama's election was the crowning achievement of this Catholic-Jewish cooperation.
After America falls, the rest of the world will try to explain why it happened. Whatever explanation is generally accepted will dictate the actions of the rest of the world for at least a generation.
The Catholic Church will blame you while conveniently leaving out its' own role in the disaster.
The greatest moral failures in all of this are the White Protestants, who wouldn't stand up to Catholic or Jewish power or immigration.
MacDonald is claiming that Jews (as a group) affected demographic policies to suit their own benefit. This doesn't sound antisemitic to you?
It seems to be a claim of concerted and overly powerful Jewish influence on European society. This kind of idea wouldn't be out of place in the Protocols.
Rashkov:
MacDonald is an Antisemite, the Intellectual Father of modern American antisemitism. Very influential and very bad.
He writes that the American Jewish community advanced the change in immigration laws to open up the country and change its demographic composition. No other ethnic group was so consistently interested in immigration laws, only the Jewish community. Up to this point the history seems to confirm the facts but his thesis is that this is a strategy to weaken the Anglosaxon domination. I wrote him that Jews were interested in bringing in their relatives, who were being oppressed in Russia and Poland. During the thirties European Jews situation became very bad and it was a question of saving them from death. In the "Ship of Fools" historic episode, America rejected Jewish refugees and sent them back to die in Germany. All Jewish efforts to change rigid and cruel American immigration laws failed when it was most important for the Jews. Only in the sixties the laws were changed, but then the Jewish masses of Europe did not exist anymore. In my opinion, Jews had no interest at all in changing American demography, only to save their European relatives. No one ever imagined a flood of Third World people. Moreover, most of the immigration to America is not legal, but illegal and then after a few years, illegals are given citizenship. Nothing to do with the Jews at all. But MacDonald is an Antisemite and his theory suits perfectly the antisemite wiew of a satanic enemy. Very Bad Man.
Interesting series of exchanges.
It could be argued that there is, and has for a long time existed a powerful alliance between the Jews and the Anglo (WASP)Protestants, which could have led to the defeat of Hitler (had the Nazis developed the Bomb) and, certainly did lead to the relatively early defeat of Japan(via the Manhatten Project), and was also responsible for the Cold War victory.
As alluded to in the Blog, there is also a strong case to be made to the effect that Israel derives a lot of support from a certain type of fundamentalist WASP. This is certainly the perception in Al Qaeda.
One must expect people to organise in their own interests. Jews are good at this; so are the best of the WASPS but only when confronted with immediate problems. MacDonald is, as J seems to accept, factually correct in pointing out the dangers to WASP society, especially the risk that WASPs will lose control of their creation, the USA. Although his remedies might arouse suspicion, and even fear, MacDonald's worries would not be out of place if uttered by any other ethnic spokesman or commentator. It is completely legitimate for WASPs now to conduct an open, mainstream discussion of their situation. I am glad that J has written to him, as I think a line of communication between people like MacD and Jewish thought leaders (ie, everybody) would soon lead to the realisation that we have more to gain than to lose by co-operating.
I do not think that Anti-Semitism is a necessary component of WASP survival, and indeed the Judeo-Protestant alliance is one of the main engines of Western Civilisation. If MacD is holding out an olive branch, the opportunity should be taken to institute dialogue.
There are already numerous signs that Jewish intellectuals are, at last, alive to the danger of the demographic catastrophe now enveloping Europe and, potentially, the USA, and which, if unchecked, would most certainly not be in the interests of Jews, WASPs, Catholics or secular whites of any religious persuasion and especially not the many, many de facto atheists and agnostics with Christian or Jewish backgrounds.
There is a solution and it will require the traditional stakeholders to debate fully and frankly with each other. It cannot just be left to "the market". The issues are essentially biological.
"Anon".
Thanks for the comment. I didnt see the point you made: MacDonald is now holding the olive branch and is offering alliance. My mind is too petrified in past events while should be open to changing situations. I have no doubt in MacDonald´s integrity and bona fide. I think NorthEastern Europeans and Jews, in the right proportions (Jews no more than 3%), is a worldshaking team. The tragic example of South Africa should open the eyes to all of us.
I don't know MacDonald, so can't really vouch for him, but the point is that a decline in Protestant numbers and power is not good for the Free World and actually not good for Jewish interests. You are correct to refer to South Africa as an example of this; note in particular the Durban 2001 "Conference against Racism" which became an extra-ordinarily anti semitic event. This would not have happened when the Afrikaner Protestants were in control; they were basically sympathetic to the plight of Israel and understood it. This is not to argue for apartheid, which had become a failed policy and long outlived its usefulness.
The decline in Protestant numbers has to be faced by those who are primarily responsible: Protestants themselves. I agree with Ronduck here. This is what must be fixed, and it is very difficult.
As for the 3% mentioned by J, I am interested in the derivation of this. It sounds like something from La Griffe's "Smart Fraction". Interesting that J mentions such a specific threshold, and I presume what is implied is that problems arise over and above this threshold. Perhaps at this threshold there is a balance of sorts at the highest cognitive levels, plus the ability to leverage the skills and muscle of the rest of society. There have been other examples of this sort of society; maybe Russia, and pre-1930 Germany. The important sustainability factor going forward is that it not be threatening to other peaceful nations, and remains open to selected people (ie legal immigration) on the basis of merit. This is the kind of powerhouse which can really solve hard problems and transform the whole world for the better.
Anon.
What has happened in South Africa and in Southern Rhodesia before is not good for anybody. It is a terrible tragedy. It is true that Jews were salient in the Communist Party, but as in the URSS, Poland, Chechslovakia, etc. they ended by having to leave their countries. The masses of Jews are evacuating now South Africa.
3% is the proportion that I think our hyperactivism and aggressiveness is tolerable for the goyim (the peoples, in Hebrew).
There will be a time to return to Africa.
I hope the Jews will join us once again.
Anon.
The decline in Protestant numbers has to be faced by those who are primarily responsible: Protestants themselves. I agree with Ronduck here. This is what must be fixed, and it is very difficult.
The problem is not the decline in Protestant numbers, but the importation of millions of Catholics. Without our government's willful negligence on our southern border there would not be a Hispanic population here in America. The massive changes in America's immigration laws began with the election of America's first Catholic president: JFK. Prior to his election he wrote a book that I believe was called A Nation of Immigrants, extolling how America supposedly has no ethnic foundation. American Jewry clearly has been a part of this, with the 1965 immigration act being sponsored by a Jewish senator. Also, Jewish money and media coverage has been a major factor in the Democrats ongoing victories.
This continues to the present day. The Israeli dual national Michael Chertoff was the Secretary of Homeland Defense under Bush, building very little if no fence while he was in office.
Former IDF mechanic Rahm emmanuel is Obama's chief of staff and there is a good chance that he and his employer will work to pass an amnesty of 30 million illegal Mexicans during the beginning of his term.
If I remember correctly the last Secretary of Homeland Defense was an Israeli dual national.
One last comment for now:
After Tony Blair left office as Prime Minister of Britain he received communion as a Catholic, indicating that he had been one all along. During his tenure millions of Britons saw fit to leave their mother country, and millions of aliens were invited/imported in.
If Bush does the same thing do you think there will be a political firestorm? Will anyone care, or will it be too late?
Ronduck, the USA is one of the few places where the white birthrate is enough to keep the white numbers stable. Look at Canada, which is well below replacement, and also the UK. This also applies to the Catholic French in Quebec, by the way, not just the Anglo Protestants. And, of course, most of Europe. I suggest you read Mark Steyn's latest book, "America Alone". It is disturbing.
Anon.
I know what you are saying Anon. In the US it is the Evangelical churches that prop up the White birthrate, an they are also the most philosemitic.
I want to make one technical point. Not all White Protestants are WASPs. The WASPs were/are specific group in mostly in the northeast. Alot of the other White Protestants are Germanic, Nordic, southern european or some mixture. The WASPs were the Northern Protestants that were mostly English.
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