I think I am among the first readers of Prof. Kevin MacDonald trilogy on the Jews, and among the first to recognize him as evil. Lately, he has left us Jews alone and became a White Nationalist, articulating the unassaultable position that as a White American he has legitimate ethnic interests and he has the same right to promote them as other ethnic groups such as the Africans, Mexicans, Jews, etc. He says that as a White American, he has interest in the ethnic composition of his country and wants a moratorium on immigration and the expulsion of illegal immigrants. He wonders how this position could be constructed as racist, if the stated policy of the American Government is to expulse illegal immigrants?
I know that the Devil should be painted blacker than black, and everything the antisemite professor has to say should be rejected as abominable and blasphemous, yet I am not like that. MacDonald writes very well and his arguments, in this case, are convincing. I do think American Whites have an ethnic interest and they should control the ethnic composition of their country. They always did and I dont know how this elementary right of self determination is being disputed today. It should be obvious.
Yet the argument that he is only "defending" the White race is false. The Nazis were all the time argueing that they were defending Germany against the attack of the scheming Jews, the mulatto French and the Asiatic masses of Russia. In fact, they attacked militarily all their neighbors and enslaved millions - defending their ethnic interests. American White Nationalists's defense of their legitimate ethnic interests translates into attacking everybody else.
MacDonald's enemy is Arellano, who asserts that MacDonald advocates deportation of all non-Whites, including African Americans and every other group, legal or illegal, no matter how long they or their ancestors have been in America. For these crimes, he advocates that MacDonald be fired from his academic position.
Again, I know that in a dirty political battle like this, Arellano is doing the right thing. Quoting that famous Rabbi that was asked if a long dead chicken could be eaten by a pious Jew: Yes, it is kosher, but it stinks.
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This is not a black/white thing and MacDonald makes a mistake by portraying it that way - most Americans are not racists and even more, want to APPEAR as not being racist at all costs - witness the election of Obama and the PC knots we twist ourselves into in order not to say that we are at war with Islam, even though we are (e.g. at they airport they have to search at least 1 white grandmother for every young Moslem male they search).
Ironically illegal immigration most hurts blacks and legal resident Hispanics - it is their jobs that are taken by illegals. As a rich white person, it actually helps me that I can hire cheap illegal Mexicans to cut my lawn, work at my factory, etc. (even though on the whole the costs to society (schooling the illegals children, keeping them in jail when they commit crimes, their health care costs, etc.) exceed the benefits. The benefits are to me personally but the costs are spread to all taxpayers.
K
What costs? I think illegal workers benefit the host country's economy and they originate almost no costs. They increase domestic demand, increasing the STate's customs and VAT income. What are the costs? They have no health coverage, they get no social payments nor subsidies on anything, schooling their children is peanuts.
Education is the biggest cost, followed by healthcare (they go to the emergency room, which is legally forbidden from turning away all emergencies and then don't pay the bill) and prisons.
Education in the US does not cost peanuts - teachers are vastly overpaid (some make over $100K annually for a 9 month year, plus generous pension and other benefits). Schools are constructed with all sorts of bells and whistles. There is a large administrative staff in addition to the teachers - it works out to roughly $10,000 per student (and this ignores capital costs). "Special" students cost even more. So one illegal alien with 5 or 6 children costs the taxpayers $50 or $60,000 per year, more than he produces. And this school expense is basically wasted money - these are not future Feynmans, nor does the 2nd generation have the immigrant work ethic either - they tend even more to criminality than their parents and are entitled to full social benefits if they are born here.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
K
PS, US has no national VAT tax, just a "sales tax" on certain items in certain states (food and other necessities are usually excluded) - the peak rate is around 8% (California) ranging down to nothing (Alaska).
I heard a commentator suggest that there should be a tax on remittences of currency back to the native country (illegal aliens send back billions to Mexico each year - in many Latin countries foreign remittences are one of the leading sources of income). I'm guessing that this would just drive the remittences underground - instead of using Western Union there would be some black market hawala method of sending money without tax. The billions in drug money already crosses the border illegally this way.
K
During my Mother's disease I experienced the need for illegal immigrants - they are a big help, they work disciplinedly and for little money. I have no confidence in the calculations that they do not pull their weight, I think they work, they produce, the State finds the way to tax them, and consume little. Theoretically I know it is no good to have a divided society, we want to be homogeneous like Norway. One thing is certain, democracy as we conceive it is imposible where a large part of the population are disenfranchised Helots. Rich Gulf Arabs allow sontract workers to stay a few years, then they are cruelly expelled. Japan has the same policy, no foreigner ever receives permanent residence permit. Illegals, well, are illegals everywhere. Spain sends their boats back to the ocean to let them drowns there.
I see nothing wrong with guest workers. They bring money home, they provide needed services here. My mother also had a succession of Polish ladies (they came on 6 month tourist visas). It was an ideal situation. The Gulf idea of rotating them thru I think is a good one. This does not make them Helots. What would you think if your mother's Indian lady had brought with her to Israel her 6 children and her elderly parents? Still not a drag on society?
On the contrary, allowing them to stay permanently and to bring their families, who are ill adapted to democratic citizenship in an advanced society is the rotten idea. If you make a deal with someone that you are coming as a guest worker for X years, why is it "cruel" to send them home when the agreed upon term is over? At the end of the term, they return home and start businesses, etc. with their savings from the guest stint. I think it is good for both the host country and the native country if guest status is properly regulated and enforced.
One of the reason we have "illegal" aliens in the US is that there is a strong demand for their services (not so much a question of wages but of work ethic) but no legal framework for guest workers. So instead of coming for a few years, they come illegally with their whole family and stay permanently - much more destructive.
K
OK, K!
Anon.
I am totally against bringing foreign people to Israel. But they sure make life easier.
I admire the determination of the settlers in Samaria, they are ready to pay double extra for a Jewish gardener or an agricultural worker, while the Arab villages around are full of desperate would be labourers.
This sounds similar to your attitude towards Jewish religious practice ... you favor it in principle, but not for yourself.
By the way, to argue the other side of the case (since no one else has), throughout all ages the history has been that a large % of "guest" workers end up staying in the richer society and never return home. There is an old song whose title is "How You Gonna Keep 'em Down on the Farm (after they've seen the city lights)?" After a few years of living in an advanced society, the thought of returning to some dusty/muddy village does not appeal.
K
"they work disciplinedly and for little money"
lol some people can't hide their natures
And some anti-Semites can't hide theirs.
K
It has been my experience that antisemites want money no less than everybody else, but they are less successful in getting it. Envy, that is what motivates them.
I would have said fear more than envy, but envy is a factor, no doubt.
Anon.
"Yet the argument that he is only "defending" the Jewish race is false. The Zionists were all the time argueing that they were defending Israel against the attack of the scheming Muslims...Zionists' defense of their legitimate ethnic interests translates into attacking everybody else."
We Zionist are not argueing, we ARE defending our country against aggression. We dont want to destroy or harm the Iranian people, yet Ahmedenijad and his ayatollahs want to destroy Israel and are building missiles and nuclear weapons to that purpose.
We dont go putting bombs in Muslim mosques, the Muslims are bombing anything Jewish. Today they bombed the Chabad center in Poona, India.
So when Zionists have complaints against Palistinians, those complaints are valid. When white Americans have complaints about their country being transformed demographically by people bringing in gangs and crime, we just want to wipe out other races.
Have I understood you?
Basically, you're using a tautology: Jewish = good, white American nationalist = bad.
You are totally justifies in defending your interests.
And so are we.
Anon.
J, are you there, or is this conversation over and we're all antisemites?
We are not anti-semites.
But nor are we anti-ourselves.
Anon.
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