Prof. Kevin MacDonald publishes a new article "Racial Conflict and the Health Care Bill" where - my interpretation - he advocates racial conflict and war. There is a fine line between a descriptive analysis of a social situation, like that there are increasing signs that political forces are aligning according to ethnic lines, and a jubilant ex-abrupto predicting - no, advocating - racial conflict in America. It is clear to me that Kevin MacDonald is rejoicing in the existing ethnic divisions in America and predicting - if not proposing - their develoment into open racial fight. Once I considered him a researcher and an university professor, but increasingly he is abandoning that role and becoming a political leader - and a subversive one. For much less Rabbi Kahana was put out of the law in Israel and forbidden political activity. But in America anyone can foment racial hatred and advocate ethnic civil war on the condition that he does not use "hate words" but polished prose. And no one dares to protest because he is only exercising his sacrosant right to free speech. He thinks...
It is encouraging that polls indicate that Whites are aware that the elites are arrayed against them. It is a short step for them to develop an explicit understanding that ... Jews are the financial backbone of the Democratic Party and its coalition of non-White minorities.But everything would be fine...
...if very large percentages of Whites coalesce together politically, even if it is in the corrupt Republican Party, the reality of racial conflict will be simply too obvious for anyone to ignore. And then it will get really interesting.Kevin MacDonald is clearly enjoying the vision of rivers of blood - Jewish, Black, Latino, White - running on the streets of America.
Pfuuia.
19 comments:
You're kidding?
According to McDonald, Jews are not "white". I think this is funny because my children and I happen to have the palest skin possible (though our hair and eyes are dark). If whiteness was determined by skin tone, we would win 1st prize. We have almost no pigment in our skin and exposure to the sun just causes us to burn. N.E. Europe gets almost no sun in the entire winter - our darker skinned ancestors must have died of vitamin D deficiency. Even in the darkest days of Jim Crow racism, it never occurred to anyone in the US that Jews were not "white".
McDonald needs to come up with a better terminology. "White Christians" perhaps - nah, too KKK like. But he excludes the upper classes. How about "White Trash"? Yes, that'll do - Prof. K. McDonald, leader of the White Trash of America.
K
Dennis:
No. I do believe he is promoting ethnic division. The one thing that can destroy America is another civil war. The world doesnt need that. If you want to send immigrant back to their countries, you can do it without a racial conflagration. Here it is being done on pure economic reasons: we have 9% unemployment and they are taking the jobs of Israelis. Germany is doing it silently and effectively. But I agree that Mr Obama is unlikely to do it.
Of course he is not going to do it - he intends to do the very opposite {er macht genau das Gegenteil). One man's economic crisis is another man's opportunity (to put American firmly on the social democratic path). Emannuel has made that clear. Immigration "reform" would allow millions of illegal aliens (and the families they will import) to become citizens and ensure a Democrat majority forever. What's not to like (from Obama's POV)?
For decades, Democrats ran against Republicans as the "people who want to take away your Social Security [pension]." In the future they will run against "the people who want to take away your health care." This is "win-win" for Democrats, which is why they are so jubilant the bill passed. If the Republicans say "yes we do" they will (hopefully) lose elections. If they say "no we don't" then they have permanently shifted the political agenda one more notch to the left.
Obama sells this as social justice but in reality he (and even more so his advisers) is a Chicago style politician who hopes to put an unbreakable Democratic "machine" in place in America the same way they have for decades in the large American cities, where the Republican party is just not competitive. McDonald tries to spin this as white vs. non-white (putting the Jews in the non-white category) but what it really is is "the group of people who are net beneficiaries of government largess" vs. "the group of people who are net losers." If you give out enough patronage goodies, civil service jobs, gov. contracts, pensions, free health care, etc., etc. you can get 51%+ of the people who will vote Democrat for fear of being thrown off their own personal gravy train. High concepts are wonderful but people will vote their own personal fears over abstract principles.
I don't think this is going to work. Americans believe in the two party system - there is a central core of independent swing voters that are loyal to neither party and like the idea of divided government because they see what corrupt hellholes single party ruled cities are. Most of them fled the cities to the suburbs for this very reason. Wise ones realize that there is no "free" lunch - they are the ones paying their own benefits, but after being wrung thru the corrupt government mechanism, less is coming back to them than they are putting in. "The rich people will pay for it all " just doesn't work - the money that rich people are supposed to pay never materializes - they figure various schemes to avoid the taxes or if necessary just move elsewhere. Thru various parliamentary tricks, Obama squeezed the health care bill thru but in doing so he woke a lot of people up, which is going to affect the composition of Congress in November.
The theme of the left is that those who object to any aspect of the program are racists (and guys like McDonald only provide more ammunition to them) but the race card has been overplayed - people know that what they are feeling when they get upset over bring European style Social Democracy to America (not just European style but the unsustainable Greek variant paid for with money that you don't really have) has nothing to do with race per se. This is the kind of argument that you can only sell to your base who believes it already anyway and does not really swing votes.
Obama is not going to squeeze another trick like this out of Congress - further action on immigration, cap and trade, etc. is not going to happen between now and November and certainly not after November when his majorities will be reduced or eliminated.
K
"I do believe he is promoting ethnic division."
You must be joking again. The only way McDonald could possibly make his promotion of ethnic division more explicit would be to don a swastika or KKK robes.
That being said, I think what he has in mind is a ballot box revolution and not a civil (race) war. The Democrats yelling that they are being personally threatened by racist teabaggers are just engaging in political theater to entertain their base and delegitimize the opposition so that fence sitters are disinclined to jump in that direction (who wants to join up with a group of drooling racist losers?).
BUT, if people feel that they are excluded from the political system, that the system is somehow totally rigged against them so that they can never win no matter what, then what is now just a game of crying wolf may in fact become real. In that sense, the best thing that could happen to the Democrat leadership (that may someday literally save their lives) is for them to receive a thorough drubbing at the polls in November.
K
I think you are underestimating the extent of Kevin MacDonald's intentions. He and his friends are convinced that they have lost their country and they have to reconquest it by arms (because they are becoming a minority). They are playing with fire, because ethnic conflicts can and do rapidly turn into all-out civil wars. And they are insoluble, except by miscegenetion or extermination. Any racial conflict in America would destroy the country. MacDonald's web magazine is constantly exploring the possibilities of dividing America into several countries, establishing areas where only Whites can live. These ideas can only lead to bloodshed and the weakening of America and its concentration on internal conflicts and abandonment of its role as global peacemaker. As a Zionist, a racial conflict in America would increase the migration of Jews to Israel, providing another confirmation of Zionist ideology (that the Diaspora is unsustainable and Jews are condemned to wandering from country to country - except those who join us in building our own country), but without America the world would become a dangerous or mortal place for small countries like Israel.
On the other hand, I think America's demographic problem is not so bad and it can easily be corrected by enforcing existing laws against illegal immigrants, as European countries and Israel are starting to do. If it is done without fanfare and without racist undertones, so much for the better. In a way, turning anti-immigration enforcement into a racial confrontation, they are objectively sabotaging it.
"In a way, turning anti-immigration enforcement into a racial confrontation, they are objectively sabotaging it."
I absolutely agree with that. As I said in another post, if the Republican party accepts and promotes the identity that the leftists are trying to assign to it (the "party of white people") then it can, based on demographics alone, forget about holding power in the long run, even if no other immigrant ever arrives and all the illegals already here are sent home tomorrow (both of which aren't going to happen anyway). And idea that all white people can somehow be corralled into a voting block for the Republicans or some third party (as black voters already are for the Democrats) is just a pipe dream - it's not going to happen.
But even playing with ideas like secession is like playing with gasoline - America's last civil war (also fought over racial issues) killed more Americans than all the other wars in American history put together.
The funny thing is that the current conflict really has little to do about race. Rather what we have is the party of big government (the "Social Democrats") vs. the party of less big government and traditional morality (the "Christian Democrats"). The poor, who are on the receiving end of Social Democracy, tend to favor it and just happen to be minorities. Latinos (especially as the generations become more assimilated and prosperous as happened to every other "irredeemably bad" minority in America before (the Irish, the Italians, the Jews))ultimately has a lot in common with Christian Democrats, such as the Catholic church's opposition to abortion. But if they are made to feel unwelcome in the Republican Party then, just as 50 years after Jews became economically successful the Republicans are still wondering "what's wrong with the Jews - why won't they vote their economic interests?", they will be wondering "what's wrong with the Latinos?".
K
J, Kevin MacDonald is stating that there is an escalating race war already in progress. If you want to see what a racist genuinely sounds like then watch this two minute youtube video:
youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0
I don't think this is going to work. Americans believe in the two party system - there is a central core of independent swing voters that are loyal to neither party and like the idea of divided government because they see what corrupt hellholes single party ruled cities are. Most of them fled the cities to the suburbs for this very reason.
Since we are on this subject those swing voters are overwhelmingly White Catholics. If you look at this poll you will see that they swung back and forth during the election. When theses same states do vote Republican they vote for "moderate" Republicans who are basically flaming liberals.
It's worth noting that a Catholic author from your native Pennsylvania wrote an entire book claiming that the destruction of the major Northern cities (like Detroit) was the fault of the "WASP's and their coalition with Jews". Considering how the hierarchy of the Roman church pushes fraudulent crap like this it's no wonder many of them still reject the Republican party.
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J,
Despite its possible confirmation of Zionist ideology, a racial conflict that increased Jewish emigration to Israel would be a total disaster for Israel. That is because Israel is not only a small country but a pariah country, and its only real ally is the U.S. The Arabs might even be emboldened to attack (or at least turn up the small skirmishes to intolerable levels) if they thought that Israel were totally on its own without any ability to fight the negative press and UN resolutions, etc. that would inevitably follow any Israeli counter-response. This further highlights why it's a seriously bad idea for all Jews to gather in Israel: Israel is and will always be in mortal danger. If all or even most Jews are in Israel, it significantly raises the likelihood that a large proportion of the Jewish people will be killed in one fell swoop. That's a heck of a lot worse than intermarriage IMHO.
That is my point: An openly racial conflict in America would be a disaster for small countries all over the world, and specially for Israel. On the other hand, one or two million American Jewish immigrants would advance Israel and make us a middle range power, like Holland or Sweden, better able to defend itself.
Regarding Israel becoming the graveyard of a large proportion of the Jewish people, the fear is there. There is no guarantee of survival anywhere. After the failure of the thousand years galuth in Poland, I think that the Israel option is worth to be tried. Nothing worse can happen us that already happened in Europe. As for me, I am quite optimistic. We have been outcompeting our enemies and the gap in our favour is growing. We are not in the same league with the Arabs.
K, I'm not too sure that America is really Israel's ally. Since the Camp David Peace Accords Israel has given up about half of its territory because of diplomatic pressure from the US.
We are not in the same league with the Arabs.
Mexico is not in the same league as the Arabs, despite having the same national IQ. The Arabs are only able to harass you because of oil money and outside support, otherwise they would be nothing. If outside powers would stay out of the Levant most of your problems would be solved.
The atom bomb is the game changer here and does make it unwise to put all, or even a lot, of your eggs in one basket.
This is not the time for arrogance.
Anon.
Anon.
When your family travels on vacations, each one of you takes a different vehicle: you take a plane, your wife a car, your son a train? Prudence is essencial.
Arrogance is to pretend to cheat destiny.
Well, maybe you are right.
We all see the sword of Damocles hanging over the other man's head but never our own. The Floridian thinks the Californian is crazy to live in a place where an earthquake could occur at any moment. The Californian thinks the Floridian is crazy to live in the path of hurricanes. Etc.
(Except where I live - this part of Pennsylvania is perfectly safe). Actually, sometimes I visit the nearby lush Amish country full of well maintained farms stretching into the distance. William Penn lured the Amish here in 1730 with a promise that they would be free to practice their crazy religion without oppression and avoid all military service - their children would not be cannon fodder in someone prince's war, their lands would not be burned and pillaged, they could dress in their funny hats and beards and speak their German dialect to each other and be fruitful and multiply. And he, and all the American governments since then, have kept their word. Generation after generation of Amish are born and die of old age on the lands of their ancestors. They are not sent to camps or gassed, they are not sent wandering to another hemisphere where they do not speak the language and there is no good paprika. When I see that peaceful valley and I think of all the pogroms and malchama that my ancestors endured in the years since 1730 and especially in the 20th century, it almost makes me want to cry at their luck and our misfortune.
K
But the Amish will not be remembered for General Relativity, Marxist-Leninism, the Bomb, gefilte fish, or any of the other contributions to humanity by your people (27% of all'hard science' Nobels); they will be remembered in fact, for nothing at all.
Come on, K; which would you have?
Anon.
Shoo-fly pie?
The Amish shun higher education - they stop attending school after the 8th grade. They are meant for a life of farming. I realize that the Jews could never live this life, but we sure could use a little more peace. Is that too much to ask?
K
Actually, this is an interesting question. IMHO, and according to my observations in many places over a long time, Jews tend to 'push the envelope' in many spheres of endeavor. I think this is because they like to see the world (or whatever part of the world they are able to influence) as a giant chessboard, and being competitive and smart, always try to win, or at the very least, to find the limits.
Georg Soros, for example, regards the whole world as a chessboard, and wants to influence its direction and outcomes; although not in a way that will satisfy the rest of his co-religionists.
So, I think, despite the many skills developed over the ages at calming other people down, you will continue to find peace to be elusive. In the main, this is because you can't fool all the people all of the time, even though it might, at the euphoric top of the cycle, appear that you can (eg, Madoff).
In truth, and notwithstanding the huge and real gifts to the rest of humanity, you will always be put at risk by your very own nature; coupled with the fact that you desire to, and succeed at, remaining a separate ethnic group, even as circumstances are being arranged to dissolve away white ethnic identity forever.
Anon.
Genetic studies show that Jews, even Ashkenazi Jews, differ significantly from 'Whites' of full European descent. Look it up.
On the Amish, genetic studies show them to be slightly Asiatic, some of them as much as 15-20%...look it up -- the genes of the Mongol raiders during the Middle Ages have stuck with them.
Some of the genes.
Sadly, the Amish do not seem to be too strong in the raping and pillaging department.
Or maybe Ghengis was really a secret furniture maker, who loved nothing more than a quiet trip into town once a year in a quaint carriage and funny hat.
Somewhere, he obviously "fell off the wagon".
Anon.
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