Tattoos are expressly forbidden in the Torah itself (כְתֹבֶת קַעֲקַע) so this is an abomination - an insult to the essence of Judaism. One of the most basic things that distinguished Jews from the neighboring tribes in ancient times was that Jews did not mutilate themselves with cutting or tattoos. When I was growing up, the only Jews I knew who had tattoos were people like my aunt who had numbers on their forearms from Auschwitz, so that a Jew would voluntarily tattoo himself today is doubly revolting.
PS The "tramp stamp" in the photo doesn't look like a real tattoo - it's too dark and looks like it was painted on the surface.
Free speech does not give you the right to be rude. If you spray graffiti on my house I'm going to erase it.
Actually the Torah talks about "cutting for the souls [of the dead]" - presumably it was a custom among other tribe to cut yourself when a family member died (just as the Jews still cut their clothing). Of course circumcision is something else.
I can commend that antisemite - he noticed something more than the tattoo.
K, we should not close ourselves to what antisemites say but be very attentive to their messages. If my grandparents would have taken them more seriously, they would have left Hungary for Argentina somewhere between 1930 and 1943.
Anonymous, consider Jabotinsky wikipedia. "In 1909 he fiercely criticized leaders of the Russian Jewish community for participating in ceremonies marking the centennial of the Russian writer Nikolai Gogol. In view of Gogol's anti-Semitic views, he said, it was unseemly for Russian Jews to take part in these ceremonies: It showed they had no Jewish self-respect." Free speech has its place ... but not everywhere is its place. Boycotting someone else's free speech is also freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. The mosque's free speech involves banning anti-Muslim speech from the mosque. J, you have a point, but I agree with K. I would suggest: Remove graffiti, study history.
If the Jews left a country every time an anti-Semite opened his mouth, the planes would be booked 100% of the time just with fleeing Jews. Nobody could have foreseen Hitler's genocidal plan because nothing like this had ever been done in a "civilized" country.
As for our current anti-Semites, they are just sad pathetic figures, unemployed losers living in their mother's basement and there is nothing to learn from their ignorant ravings.
I just meant that in the particular passage that bans cutting and tattooing, (Leviticus 19:28) cutting for the souls [of the dead] is what is banned, not circumcision. I was not trying to deny that the Jews stole most of their customs from neighboring tribes.
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Tattoos are expressly forbidden in the Torah itself (כְתֹבֶת קַעֲקַע) so this is an abomination - an insult to the essence of Judaism. One of the most basic things that distinguished Jews from the neighboring tribes in ancient times was that Jews did not mutilate themselves with cutting or tattoos. When I was growing up, the only Jews I knew who had tattoos were people like my aunt who had numbers on their forearms from Auschwitz, so that a Jew would voluntarily tattoo himself today is doubly revolting.
PS The "tramp stamp" in the photo doesn't look like a real tattoo - it's too dark and looks like it was painted on the surface.
K
You are 100% right.
Yet I see many tattoos in my town.
I wonder how I didnt see it?
: - )
"was that Jews did not mutilate themselves with cutting"
You're forgetting one rather obvious exception.
Her ass is nice, but we all know Jews have ugly faces.
J, another post needs to be deleted.
TWIT:"J, another post needs to be deleted."
Why do you hate the American right to free speech so much TWIT?
Also, that tattoo looks fake or else added on by a computer.
Free speech does not give you the right to be rude. If you spray graffiti on my house I'm going to erase it.
Actually the Torah talks about "cutting for the souls [of the dead]" - presumably it was a custom among other tribe to cut yourself when a family member died (just as the Jews still cut their clothing). Of course circumcision is something else.
K
I can commend that antisemite - he noticed something more than the tattoo.
K, we should not close ourselves to what antisemites say but be very attentive to their messages. If my grandparents would have taken them more seriously, they would have left Hungary for Argentina somewhere between 1930 and 1943.
Anonymous, consider Jabotinsky wikipedia. "In 1909 he fiercely criticized leaders of the Russian Jewish community for participating in ceremonies marking the centennial of the Russian writer Nikolai Gogol. In view of Gogol's anti-Semitic views, he said, it was unseemly for Russian Jews to take part in these ceremonies: It showed they had no Jewish self-respect." Free speech has its place ... but not everywhere is its place. Boycotting someone else's free speech is also freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. The mosque's free speech involves banning anti-Muslim speech from the mosque.
J, you have a point, but I agree with K. I would suggest: Remove graffiti, study history.
If the Jews left a country every time an anti-Semite opened his mouth, the planes would be booked 100% of the time just with fleeing Jews. Nobody could have foreseen Hitler's genocidal plan because nothing like this had ever been done in a "civilized" country.
As for our current anti-Semites, they are just sad pathetic figures, unemployed losers living in their mother's basement and there is nothing to learn from their ignorant ravings.
K
K
Frequently ignorant and always vitriolic, but closing our ears to their message is suicide.
"Of course circumcision is something else."
How so, Maimonides? It's ritualistic cutting of the flesh.
Why such reluctance to acknowledge commonalities with the other Levantine tribes?
I just meant that in the particular passage that bans cutting and tattooing, (Leviticus 19:28) cutting for the souls [of the dead] is what is banned, not circumcision. I was not trying to deny that the Jews stole most of their customs from neighboring tribes.
K
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