Scandal in the Hungarian Parlament: the Jobbik Party announced that there is a hidden Israeli among them! It was during the routine approval of European Union's acts, but it got stucked on the participation of Israel in the EU's Mediterranean initiative(Source: Nepszabadsag). Apparently they were talking about Lazar Jeno (pic), the FIDESZ party parlamentary leader. Hungary is obsessed with Jews. They are less than 0.1% of the population and so scarce that chances are that a Hungarian will never meet a living Jew. But they will not rest till the last of the Hungarian Jews and their much mixed descendants leave Hungary.
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My daughter's fencing coach has been trying for years to get me to send my daughter to a fencing summer camp in Hungary. Apparently the training there is very good and costs are low by American standards. I refuse to give them even one forint of my money. Whenever I think of Hungary, all I can think of is the Arrow Cross throwing Jews into the Danube. I've told my daughter this but I'm not sure she completely understands. I realize that they aren't doing this anymore but neither have they completely reformed - I feel as if the Germans have made a more sincere repentance.
Europe is bad Karma for my family anyway - the one and only time my parents ever set foot in Europe again after they left the DP camps, their El Al jet landed for refueling in Paris. As soon as they touched the ground, people began shooting at them again for being Jews - Carlos the Jackal fired a bazooka at their plane (which missed, thank God).
K
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Hungarians are definitely UNreformed. They must be the most unreformed Nazis left in Europe. Almost half of the Parlament is Nazi. Not antisemite, but Nazi. They make a big deal of their heroic war against the Red Army in Ucraine (There was a big battle in the Don Kanyar - the bend of River Don - where the Red Army practically erased the Romanian, Hungarian and other axis armies). Hungary sees itself as a martial horde yet has not won a single battle in 150 years. My father made teo campaign in Ucraine with the Hungarian Army and deeply despised them.
"Hungary sees itself as a martial horde yet has not won a single battle in 150 years."
The Argentines seem to have a similar self-image. What is it about these 2nd rate countries that leads to such delusions? They seem to mistake uniforms with lots of medals and ribbons on them for actual military skill but whenever they are tested in combat (which they themselves usually provoke) they get their asses kicked.
K
"Hungary is obsessed with Jews. They are less than 0.1% of the population and so scarce that chances are that a Hungarian will never meet a living Jew. But they will not rest till the last of the Hungarian Jews and their much mixed descendants leave Hungary."
First, where do you get this number from (and BTW who do you consider being a Jew)?
Second, more important question: what do you think as a percentage where it would be OK to hate a minority? I mean 0.1 is just not enough for you, maybe 10 would be a better reason?
"Hungarians are definitely UNreformed. They must be the most unreformed Nazis left in Europe"
Oh I 've read this only now. Are you realizing you are thinking exactly like the Nazis claiming that an entire nation can be described by a single trait? "Many Hungarians" would be more correct I guess.
It seems for me you speak Hungarian so you should know things are never black and white.
To Anonymous - the fact remains that this kind of discourse - worrying about whether some assimilated politician has "pure" blood or not is utterly off limits for discussion today in Germany and even in Poland, but somehow remains a legitimate question for discussion in Hungary - even if some/many Hungarians don't agree with that kind of race consciousness the fact that they allow people who do to remain in "polite society" is itself troubling.
K
In Hungary, state subsidy to religious organizations is based on the number of followers, and about 10,000 persons declared to be of the Jewish faith. That is 0.1 Percent of the population. Given the reigning antisemitism, most Hungarian Jews fear to declare their Jewishness, so the real number may be higher. Some say 30,000 (0.3 percent) or more. The accusation of crypto-Judaism are based on the mimesis of these crypto-Jews.
I dont say all Hungarians are antisemites. They are not. Israel was accepted in the Hungarian parlament by a large majority. Yet the Jewish question occupies a central part of the civic debate. All the time. It is obsessive.
Religion should not be subsidized by the state.
Religion should not be subsidized by the state.
There has never been separation of church and state in Europe (which is one reason why church attendance is so low - government run religion is as appealing as government run health care). In the past there were state churches that got all the $ but now there is a system of proportional allocation of tax $ for religious schooling - if your religion is 5% of the population you get 5% of the total religious subsidy. In the US this would violate the constitution but really it's not that terrible - there are worse things to spend $ on than the moral instruction that most religious schools provide.
K
Religion benefits the state in many ways, but the money corrupts. Within the minuscule Jewish community in Hungary there is a permanent fight going on over position, money and privileges. It is rather ugly. The American synagogue system, where generosity buys koved (respect) is much healthier.
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