German antipathy towards America is only growing. Now Der Spiegel found another reason to dislike America: its growing social inequality.
"Since around 1980, America has drifted away from that mixed-economy cluster, and traveled a considerable distance toward another: the capitalist oligarchies, like Brazil, Mexico, and Russia, with their much greater concentration of economic bounty."Five years ago I noticed that America has acquired a demographic-racial structure similar to Brasil, so most ptobably it will re-organize itself on the Brasilian social model: racial harmony and a prosperous White minority. May be South Africa is also evolving along similar lines. Anyway, Brasil is not so terrible, in fact it is a very nice country to live in, and from the genetic pool point of view, its population (by silent and unresearched processes) is becoming whiter with each generation.
The Germans, who traditionally painted America as degenerate, negrified country, with all that jazz, have not really changed their feelings.
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Race is always the elephant in the room in America.... the "educational crisis" is really a racial crisis . The "housing crisis" was all about government intervening in the markets to provide housing for non-creditworthy racial minorities, etc. But of course the public discussion entirely ignores these dimensions, so it is an absolute mystery why say City College in New York, which once produced Nobel Prize winners out of its (1st generation Jewish immigrant) student body must now teach remedial reading to its (largely black and Hispanic) current students. Once you remove the parentheticals, the cause becomes mysterious - perhaps there is some failure with the teaching or not enough money is being spent (even though we are spending more and more each year). Even if exchange rate differences with China were corrected, it's hard to see how America's decreasingly capable population could ever fully staff an advanced manufacturing economy again.
K
America's capable population is not decreasing. Whites are keeping their numbers, and there is constant immigration of talented Asians and Latin Americans.
"Anyway, Brasil is not so terrible, in fact it is a very nice country to live in, and from the genetic pool point of view, its population (by silent and unresearched processes) is becoming whiter with each generation."
Brazil is becoming whiter? I don't think I believe that.
I think there are signs of degeneracy everywhere. I have just completed a cross-country drive (5000 km - there are vast empty spaces with nothing but cow pastures and farm fields). The only growth industry I saw were gambling casinos, which are now almost everywhere. These were not grand hotels in the Las Vegas style but places where local retirees and working people could go to lose their pension and pay checks. Very sad.
Whites are certainly declining in relative #'s. If you look at babies being born, whites are barely a majority.
K
Brasil, so most ptobably it will re-organize itself on the Brasilian social model: racial harmony and a prosperous White minority.
Few fates could be worse than becoming Brasil.
Brazil is becoming whiter?
J said Brazil was much less white when J lived in Argentina.
Did Brazil have a postWWII wave of European immigration?
Or white Brazilians don't experience a wide fertility disadvantage compared to Brazil blacks?
I don't see any reason to expect that class fertility in Brazil diverges from the modern model. I think Brazil is getting blacker.
Brazil is getting blacker.
J thinks Brazil is getting whiter.
Why?
"I have just completed a cross-country drive (5000 km - there are vast empty spaces with nothing but cow pastures and farm fields). The only growth industry I saw were gambling casinos"
K,
Have you driven cross-country before? The middle of the U.S. has always contained vast empty stretches between the cities, so this is nothing new. The increase in gambling casinos is new, but there was never much else in many peri-interstate highway locales even in the golden period of the 1950's.
I realize that the country was always very empty (in some ways it feels underpopulated, as if the process of settlement was never quite completed, certainly in comparison to China or India) but it's my understanding that the rural areas are becoming even more depopulated (part of this is in response to increased farm mechanization, also because young people don't want to stay in these desolate places where there is no social life and the winters are harsh.
This was my 1st full cross country trip (even though I am in my 50s) and what surprised me was the extreme distance between "cities" (which were in some cases what we would consider to be insignificant towns in the East). After leaving Billings, Montana and heading east, the next city of any size (anything approaching 100k people) was Rapid City South Dakota which was 600 km away.
K
I cant really explain and there are no studies on Brasil becoming whiter. It is my impression and the impression of many Brasilians.
I cant really explain and there are no studies on Brasil becoming whiter. It is my impression and the impression of many Brasilians.
I cant really explain and there are no studies on Brasil
Were you well familiar with Southern Brazil when you were living in Argentina? Visited Brazil frequently? Sure the demographics are more European now?
I was very familiar with Rio Grande do Sul and also travelled extensively. I have not been there lately. The "whitening" of Brasil is my personal impression and I heard the same from Brasilians. I have no stats to support my impression, as Brasil does not classify people by race, and anyway, Brasilian stats are ... Brasilian.
Anyone interested in the subject of Brasil should read the wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_in_Brazil
which is not very illuminating but discusses the subject quite extensively.
Anyone interested in the subject of Brasil should read the wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_in_Brazil
which is not very illuminating but discusses the subject quite extensively.
As it is happens, I have just finished a tour of Rio Grande do Sul, and my impression is that there are patches of intense whiteness in areas which were settled by Germans.
You can easily tell when you are in one of these places, as the garbage disappears from the side of the road, and the buildings are either very modern, or look like something out of Bavaria.
It is a fascinating, enormous country.
Anon.
Anon,
Brasil is a world in itself. What were you doing there? Tourism? Family? Business?
Business.
Anon.
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