"The public service system has become a sink of iniquity. The more we labored on this problem, the more the senators devised every trick to twarth our right and just enactments and the public interest... Most impious of all, they abstain from marriage and choose rather to die childless than to prove themselves useful to their race and to their senate."
(From Moses Hadas" History of Rome. Ill.: Daily life in the Eastern Roman Empire.)
18 comments:
The ancients had higher IQs?
J,
Why would we even want more children now when their adult future is likely to consist of unemployment and immiserating poverty? You've written about automation and the poor outlook for future employment before. The numerous idle hands will be the devil's workshop at best. At worst, they will only serve as canon fodder for cynical elites' power games. This is not the 10th century.
Really poor and starving people doesnt seem to fear the future as you do.
Ancient Greeks may have had higher average IQ that ours. Athenians according to Galton certainly were most intelligent.
Really poor and starving people may not be able to think farther ahead than their next meal. Is that the existence you want for your descendants?
I am not afraid of hunger for me or for my descendants. The future is bright.
You have to be optimistic. I have pictures of my parents and their friends and relatives from the DP camps after the war. They are dressed in nice suits and attending weddings and bris's. You would never know from the pictures that these are people who were starving and lice ridden only a couple of years before or that their parents, brothers, sisters, wives, children, etc. had all been recently exterminated. They all had babies as fast as they could.
K
Your people will survive, but mine may not.
Anon.
>Anon: Your people will survive, but mine may not.
Strange, Anon, I don't follow you, and suspect an over-indulgent pessimism.
J's people are the fashion to blame for all bad times (such as appear looming). Looking straight into endless various muzzles from numerous angles (Lefty, Islamic, Paleo, etc).
For real.
It's unspeakable, requires all my spirit to not let it get to me, and remain positive. Do I succeed? Sometimes.
But, that's life.
The West will surely persevere, despite its challenges and changes.
ram
The West is being hollowed out, under assault from it's own leadership, who clearly have been brainwashed into the extinctionist philosophy that predominantly white societies are an evil that must be eliminated as soon as possible.
Even though this sounds histrionic, the facts admit no other interpretation.
Anon.
Anon.,
The West is large. In even the worst case scenarios, there are numerous refuges from which regrouping and population expansion can occur. And that's if the worst scenario occurs (mass murder genocide). More likely, there will be increasing immigration and concomitant leftist nanny-statism. There may be genetic admixture from immigrant or non-immigrant racial populations you don't like, but it will be unevenly spread across the white population. The outcome of that scenario rather resembles Brazil more than Auschwitz.
The Jews, on the other hand, are now heavily concentrated in two places, Israel and the U.S. Israel faces real existential threats from its immediate neighbors and more distant ones (Iran). It is demonized in the Western media to the extent that even ex-Waffen SS members like Gunter Grass, whose actions had much to do with Israel's ultimate creation, feel free to single it out as one of the greatest evils of the world. If the economic situation in the U.S. goes really sour, the atmosphere could easily go the way of late Weimar Germany. No doubt there would be voices clamoring for the deaths of Jews. They may or may not mean elite Jews, but the peasants with pitchforks will settle for any Jews they can get their hands on, who will almost certainly not be elite.
So from my perspective, it is more dangerous to be a Jew than to be a Western Gentile. To be born Jewish is a curse. At least try to appreciate your good fortune in avoiding that fate.
There is a Western self-hatred, a shame, a ham-handed post-colonial ethical overcorrection, and it is like mental illness. And it's coupled with an obsolete complacency from the prosperity of recent educated generations. A dangerous configuration.
Yet, going from the "We are Evil" self-flagelation to "extinctionist" and then from that to future actual "extinction" seems a little ungrounded.
The 2nd transition may be a bit excited, which leads you to the 3rd one, the full-on, full-strength doomsday state of mind.
I find the changes of the last few years - the normaling of extreme Jew-bashing/hatred/blaming (I read the web, you see) - honestly terrifying, it's like nothing I ever imagined I'd see. It's from that context - struggling to learn how to face it all with courage, tranquility and faith - that I respond to your concern and understanding its process. And no disrespect at all, to the contrary.
ram
I find the changes of the last few years - the normaling of extreme Jew-bashing/hatred/blaming (I read the web, you see) - honestly terrifying, it's like nothing I ever imagined I'd see.
American Jews are not hated.
You are paying too much attention to a tiny, irrelevant, corner of the internet.
Thank you for your optimism about the West.
I do not doubt that it is and always has been dangerous to be a Jew; whether in Israel or anywhere else. I have been quite often to Israel and I have made it my business, as I do wherever I travel, to thoroughly acquaint myself with conditions on the ground. `I have no doubt at all - not a scintilla - that your enemies in the Middle East would take you out in a heartbeat, if they could.
And I have no doubt as to the intentions of Iran; none.
But your great advantage is that your leadership is not at war with its own people; it has the same goals as its people; and your people are smart and aggressive enough to detect and retaliate against institutionalised treachery before it can harm you.
We on the other hand, are lulled into stupor as a natural default and generally only wake up at the last minute. We are on average more conformist, and more trusting of our leaders, despite the tradition of rugged individualism, which only applies to a small percentage out on the tail of the curve (and whom, as now, are routinely persecuted).
What is happening in the West now is a massive assault on its rightful owners, its gene pool, and which might be impossible to reverse; the ethnic cleansing in places like England, Belgium, the Netherlands and France is already quite advanced, and deliberately represented as 'enrichment' by the Orwellian elite and its sycophant media.
Even if this sort of thing was happening everywhere else, it would not be acceptable; but of course it is not. The Asians don't buy it, you guys don't in the case of Israel (and good for you), the Africans don't buy it, the Islamic countries are reacting fiercely against it, and Latin America does not permit it either.
It is only us who have been singled out for societal destruction, and only us that permit it. Whether the USA or Europe, it is the same; mass immigration foisted on a white majority against its express will.
It will end badly.
From your point of view, you should consider very carefully how an Islamic Europe and a Hispanic USA will react to Israel. Very carefully indeed.
Best wishes
Anon.
Anon.,
You are preaching to the choir here. I am an American Jew but not an elite one. I do not stand on the bully pulpit of a major Jewish organization. I share some of your concerns about immigration here and in Europe, but am equally powerless to do anything about it. Yet by virtur of sharing the label "Jew" with more elite co-ethnics who unquestioningly support immigration, interrcial marriage, etc., I am subject to the same vitriolic attacks. I can accept no illusion that (some)Jew haters really mean what they say about harming only "bad Jews."
@the commenter who said Jews aren't hated in America, I don't think that captures the situation completely. There is, here as everywhere, a core reservoir of Jew hatred. Something like 15-20% of the population if the surveys can be believed. That minority can make big trouble if the rest of the population is willing to stand by apathetically as they did in Nazi Germany. Right now, that wouldn't happen. But if the economy gets worse and propaganda urging people to blame Jews for their woes makes inroads, it could happen.
It is not my intent, nor will it ever be, to harm any Jews, directly or indirectly.
Rather, my point is that it is the immigration lobby (whoever they consist of, and there are plenty of gentiles) which is now seriously harming Jews in Europe, and the interests of Israel, and that it is not only the disposable white natives of Europe who are being harmed.
As for the USA, the increasing influence of non-whites bodes ill for the ability of the pro-Israel forces (which includes a lot of evangelical Christians)to continue to provide financial, moral and - ahem -"technical" support for Israel. This will be even more true as the US economy gets ever more indebted, providing "free" health care and other benefits for the hordes sweeping across the US borders (who are not immigrating so they can pay taxes).
This stuff is not frivolous; the next Islamic Bomb may well be Iran's, but the one after that will be Britain's.
Since the white populations of Europe and the US are effectively in a coma, I can only hope that thoughtful and energetic people in your community, whether "elite" or not, start to debate these issues in public, and loudly. Some are already leading the way, like Pamela Geller and a few others.
It can't come too soon.
Anon.
“disposable white natives”
The West’s post-colonial ethical over-correction derangement is a Jewish conspiracy in your mind? And the actual Jews are not only culpable, they are possibly endowed with some great power to change this zeitgeist, if only they would choose to do so?
ram
Dear Ram
In my mind, the white European elite have abandoned the white working class (in Southern Africa as well, but we are talking Europe here).
The gist of my fevered commentary, such as it is, is that it is impossible for me to find a Jewish interest in the mass invasion of Europe by radical Islam, and which has occurred by the specific say-so of our own masters,ie the gentile governments, in Europe; and easy to find huge danger for Jewish interests.
I would have thought this pretty much counted out a Jewish conspiracy.
Perhaps you have a different interpretation? I can't see it in what I said.
Where I think the Jews in Europe can play a helpful role, ie helping themselves as well as the rest of us, is to energetically bring these issues into the open; for I do think people in general would be less likely to blow it off as a right wing rant, or scare-mongering.
Melanie Philips has shown the way.
Anon.
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