My mind is branded with the picture of Jews trying desperately to leave Europe and no one giving them visas. The image of the 1938 Evian Conference (pic.) that decided that Jews are unwanted everywhere, is the fire that powers me. Not even the shittiest banana republic like Nicaragua and Honduras, not even empty British colonies in Africa, Madagascar and Papua New Guinea, not even the Black hellholes like Liberia and Sierra Leon. Only Trujillo agreed to take in Jews, on the condition that they be farmers.Today is different. In the last twenty years I am increasingly aware of the special programs many countries are offering to attract Jews to settle among them. The American Jewish community is doing everything possible to turn Jews leaving Russia to America. America offers special refugee status to Russian Jews, and generous absorption assistance, partly financed by the Government and partly by Jewish donors. A full third of the Russian emigration choose America instead of Israel. Those Russians are making a spectacular contribution to American economy, just look at the founder of Yahoo. America is silently targeting Israelis and it started to offer "golden visas" to Israelis: no long waiting list, no need to invest, just open a business and you are in.
The other country that is aggressively courting Jews is Germany. Germany's target is to rebuild the Jewish community as it was before the Nazis, about 400,000 persons. Germany offers super-extra-generous assistance to Jews leaving Russia and many of them - overcoming their fear of Germans - choose to accept the offer. Today there are about 250000 Jews in Germany and they are gradually assuming the mantle of the old German Jewy. Israelis are also welcome in Germany, and it is the State of Israel that actively discourages people leaving to the new Jerusalem.
Another country that is very open to Jews is China. When I was there I was considered an overseas Chinese (Jews are an officially recognized nationality in China) and offered very attractive situations just to make me move to China. (That was one of my many lost opportunities to become a very rich Jew). There are several Jewish communities already organized in China.
How much of this competition for Jews is to overcome an historical guilt feeling and how much it is because they recognize that Jews are specially beneficial in modern economy, I dont know. But times change and we are in demand.
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A little nuance is called for, J. The Chinese may have valued your personal skill, perhaps plus the mystique of your Jewishness. Would they have made the same offer to a Yemeni Jewish bus driver? He would be just as Jewish and more mysterious to them.
The favorable terms for Russian Jewish immigrants in the U.S. are much the work of the organized American Jewish community. If they hadn't been pushing (hard) for this the last 40 years, it wouldn't have happened. No American Gentile group or its leadership is defined by a love of Jews to the point that they would devise immigration policy specifically. The only non-Jewish (and non-neo-Nazi)group that cares strongly about the Jewish issue are evangelical Christians, but they want the Russian Jews to emigrate to Israel so that and end of the world conflagration can occur that sets the stage for the return of Jesus. Not pretty to think about what the evangelicals think happens to those poor Russian Jews during the conflagration.
Germany's elite feel guilt, but I'd bet you'd get a different answer if the ordinary populace were surveyed. In a welfare state during a down economy, outsiders are interlopers stealing resources that could go to you and "your people."
In summary, things aren't that different. No one really loves Jews. For that matter, the French don't love the Germans, the Germans don't love the French, etc. It's the human way, depressing as it is.
Google, not Yahoo!
Google, whatever.
American Jews pushed and keep pushing to maintain their numbers by immigration. And they are quite successful. I also think that American elite knows they are in a worldwide competition for brains.
About China, I have my firm opinion formed and you didnt made me change it.
How long ago was that opinion formed?
It's really the American Jewish elite (Jewish organizations and their big donors) who pushed for the government to favor Russian Jewish immigration. Unfortunately, all American Jews, including the descendants of the Russian Jewish immigrants will be vulnerable as the country diversifies further. Non-Jewish whites increasingly blame all Jews, not just Jewish organizations, for the immigration that is beginning to swamp the white population. The Third World immigrants also have no particular love for Jews and in some cases (Arabs, Somalians, etc.) significant hostility. The long-term survival of Jewry looks bleak.
Google, whatever.
Not so "whatever". Yahoo was in fact founded by a Chinese guy, Jerry Yang.
American Jews pushed and keep pushing to maintain their numbers by immigration. And they are quite successful.
Proof?
I also think that American elite knows they are in a worldwide competition for brains.
I don't have many good things to say about the American elite.
America's success in attracting "brains" seems to be an unintended side effect of its bizarre (and often harmful) culture of super-elite universities.
Other than that, what do they have?
The other side of the new German Jewry besides the Russians, is the ultra-Orthodox. They have managed to establish a stranglehold on Jewish and religious communal organizations in Germany. The Russian immigrants are very secular and in some cases only of partial Jewish ancestry. Lack of comfort with the ultra-Orthodox may hasten their assimilation into German society, which I think would be wise anyway. It would be better not to be too Jewish when the German population comes to remember that it doesn't like Jews.
You sure are paranoid, Anonymous.
I didn't know there were many UOs in Germany, though that was more of a Belgian thing.
Or are we talking a powerful minority of Lubavitchers with lots of money donated from oligarchs?
It's not that the numbers of ultra-Orthodox in Germany are particularly high. Rather, they and their views have disproportionate influence over the Jewish community because they provide so many of the rabbis.
Isn't Jewish history just a long breeding experiment for producing paranoia? Seriously, look at how vulnerable Jews are even at the peak of Jewish influence and tell me that it was not a curse to be born a Jew.
The other country that is aggressively courting Jews is Germany. Germany's target is to rebuild the Jewish community as it was before the Nazis, about 400,000 persons.
Germany is even courting Poland.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/poland-has-become-the-success-story-of-eastern-europe-a-834413.html
It would be better not to be too Jewish when the German population comes to remember that it doesn't like Jews.
Which may be in a generation. Just now there are no prominent Jewish troublemakers in Germany, but let them learn grammatical German and finish the university.
"America's success in attracting "brains" seems to be an unintended side effect..."
I dont think so. The green card system is designed to filter out the
dumb and poor, and let in the brains.
Singapur, Australia, Canada, etc. are also designing immigration systems to allow in brains. Should the world be like this in 1938, the Holocaust would have been less severe.
Chinese also rioting against black immigrants
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-chinaforeigner-bashing-brings-a-public-backlash/2012/05/24/gJQA4eAenU_story.html
Diverse immigrant brought (attempted) rape to China
This post of J's gave ammunition to one of the Jew-haters commenting at Steve Sailer's site. J should consider being more circumspect.
The loss of 100 000 Jews from South Africa was a huge loss to the business, professional, academic and arts community.
No question.
Anon.
This post of J's gave ammunition to one of the Jew-haters commenting at Steve Sailer's site.
They use both hands over there at Steve's, don't they.
Those people hate Jews because they hate Jews. Everything I may write will only increase their hate. This is a learning blog and they dont learn.
My mind is branded with the picture of Jews trying desperately to leave Europe and no one giving them visas. The image of the 1938 Evian Conference (pic.) that decided that Jews are unwanted everywhere, is the fire that powers me.
Isn't that mostly because, historically, Jews were rentiers who really didn't actually create any value but just tax farmed the people (and the like)? Who would really want to attract such a people to their country? The rentier classes of those economies would be loathe to admit competition.
If you could look forward to see the rise of the non-rentier economy, or that the Jews would be able to adapt to such, then you'd understand them as more desirable, but looking at them as a bunch of tax farmers, they wouldn't have seemed a very good prospect.
Now that the Jews have retrained in (mostly) non-zero sum fields where they actually create wealth, they are better desired. Or at least their increased training in non-zero sum fields is well advertised, even if that is not what they specialise most in. I think it's the Jews that have changed, and the economies of the world at large, not that the Jews have always been desirable but "just now" it is being discovered that they are useful to recruit ("Finally we can see!"). This lines up with the fact that the Germans, Chinese and Americans still make things - they aren't just rent seeking economies where more Jewish rent seekers would be unwelcome.
By the 1940's, relatively few of the pre-war Eastern European Jews were tax farmers. Tax farming was a need of the semi-independent noble magnates and aristocratic central governments that lacked fully-developed bureaucracies to collect taxes at the village and rural levels. By the early 19th century in Germany and no later than the early 20th century in Poland and the Pale of Settlement, the central governments had extended their authority and did not require contracts with Jews to collect taxes. Most potential Jewish emigrants in Eastern Europe were poor peddlers and tradesmen. There were small percentages of professionals (doctors, lawyers, accountants) and small industrialists. Really wealthy people existed but were then, as now, rare.
Most of the population everywhere is now a value transference class. That may even have been the case since population distribution shifted from the farms to the cities but has certainly the case since the decline of manufacturing in the U.S. It's not just the investment bankers who transfer value. It is also the welfare dependents and every woman or man who holds a make-work job.
J wrote: "Those people hate Jews because they hate Jews."
Some of them, yes. However, others who are not white supremacists can be converted to hate Jews on the basis of ideas ascribed to Jews, hypocrisy ascribed to Jews, or the perception that Jews are arrogantly making claims of superiority.
A lot of people don't like the Leftist/cultural Marxist construct and where it is taking Western societies. Unfortunately, a disproportionate number of Jews subscribe to Leftist and PC ideology. Even though they didn't necessarily create it, Jews are involved in enforcing it through influence over the media and academia. Jewish hypocrisy about immigration is also inflammatory, and this relates directly to your post. Jews are perceived as favoring essentially unlimited non-White immigration to the U.S. (I won't rehash the varied supposed reasons Jews might support this), whereas even liberal American Jews favor a hardline on immigration in Israel. These are broad-brush characterization, but there is more than a kernel of truth to them. In the case of immigration hypocrisy, it is more elite liberal American Jews who favor unlimited immigration. Ordinary Jews are more divided on the issue. However, that doesn't matter to white nationalists and Jew-haters.
For the record, I am Jewish.
I've always considered myself to be a philo-Semite. I don't have a drop of Jewish blood, but have always worshipped at the shrine of Bob Dylan, Joey Ramone, Rod Serling, George Gershwin, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, etc.
But lately it has dawned on me (and others in my social substrata) that an awful lot of Jews have concentrated themselves in the motion picture, television, print media, banking, legal and academic industries, where they engage in pursuits, propaganda and idea mongering that are flat out harmful to MY people, mongrelized American whites. While frequently demanding that gentile whites open up professions where they are densely concentrated, Jews in these industries seem quite happy to be nepotistic in hiring their ethnic kin, at the expense of others. I am 45 years old, and have seen real decline in my lifetime, what with immigration, job outsourcing, H1-B visas in skilled industries, unionization of government workers, etc.
Nearly all of these phenomena, which are literally hollowing out the quality of life in the US and Europe, have had prominent Jewish cheerleaders over the past few decades. Decrying these events, and their disastrous effects on the nations where they are taking place, often brings down loud condemnation from Jewish commentators.
As someone who has been a big fan of Jewry over the years, I admit I'm becoming uncomfortable. Tell me why, exactly, I'm wrong in thinking like this.
If I was an elitist Jew with my ear to the railroad tracks, I would use my clout with the right people to cut back on illegal immigration for a few years, build a wall, send some of the Indian high tech workers home so as to put American engineers back to work, roll back some of the insane regulations American businesses have to deal with in order to hire workers here in country, hobble some of the more egregious practices of Goldman Sachs and stop railing about how evil effective governors like Scott Walker are in fiscally salvaging their states from turning into Illinois or California.
And somebody, please, put a sock in Paul Krugman's piehole. Thomas Friedman, too, while you're at it.
Anonymous, above:
You have internalized the arguments of our haters, and become - to a certain extent - self-hater. The most virulently antisemitic peoples are where there no Jews at all and never have been: for example, in Pakistan, Afganistan, Indonesia. The most sad Jew-haters I know are the Hungarian fascists, who accuse each other of being Jews or descendants of Jews.
About immigration to the USA, where was the Jewish power when we needed it? When Jews were desperately trying to escape from Europe, America closed its door to Jews and returned shipfuls to Nazi Germany. If in the seventies the Jewish lobby succeded in influencing American Government to admit Russian Jews as refugees, it is a pathetic victory, a futile victory. They made money but their children are marrying the same people they managed to not marry in Russia for gnerations. Jews had certainly nothing to do with the massive movement of Mexicans to America, where they could earn 20 times what they made home. Nothing could have stopped them. Now that the difference is less dramatic, Mexicans are not going anymore to America where they are not welcome.
Anyway, in Israel we are focused in building our country and not wasting time on the imbecile phantasies our enemies make up about us. Although it is difficult not to laugh when the Saudi Secret Police captures Zionist spy vultures, or when Hungary's government reveals Israel's secret plans to annex Eastern Hungary.
J, I haven't internalized the arguments of the Jew-haters, but I do feel it is useful at least to be familiar enough with their ideas to summarize them. The typical PC response, coming from Jews or non-Jews, is either to ignore these views or, if they are acknowledged at all in the mainstream media, to rage incoherently at them. That isn't discourse, and those approaches will not succeed in defeating such ideas when they can spread on the internet outside mainstream media control.
You should not underestimate response to Evian and the Holocaust in shaping the American Jewish elite's attitudes towards immigration. It was clearly on the mind of Emmanuel Celler, the Jewish architect of the 1965 immigration act, though he certainly found support for his version of immigration reform from liberal non-Jewish quarters (Ted Kennedy et al.). I agree with you that these changes and all immigration legislation supported by liberal Jewish politicos has had no effect in helping their murdered relatives, but that isn't the issue at all. The issue is that American Jewish liberal guilt (for not being killed in the Holocaust) along with Gentile liberal guilt (over colonialism, slavery and past inequality) has paved the road to hell with a culturally destructive immigration policy clothed in supposed good intentions. The last pieces of the immigration puzzle are amoral corporate interests that would sell all of us out to line their pockets. But they needed the fig-leaf of good intentions from the liberal PC'ers to first win enough popular support as a cover and then suppress any dissent on the matter as "racist" to accomplish what they have.
Mexicans aren't leaving America, J. The government is releasing bologna statistics to create a rosy illusion and keep the issue of immigration enforcement as marginal as possible during an election year. Derbyshire covered this during his May 18th RadioDerb segment and provided a link to a related article that suggests that lack of enforcement is the real cause of the rosy statistics. Remittances from the U.S. to Mexico are actually up this year:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/news/world/2012/05/border-agents-dispute-claim-illegal-immigrant-tide-slowing/611151
You're right that Jewish liberal elites aren't the sole force opposing immigration enforcement, but they certainly aren't using their clout to help efforts in that arena. Here they separate from ordinary American Jews, who are a bit less liberal about immigration. And this is the elites' response to that realization:
"'When I first heard about this, my first thought was, ‘Why this question?’ said Ann Schaffer, director of the organization’s Belfer Center for American Pluralism, who wasn’t alone among her colleagues in wondering why the question was asked."
You're tone-deaf about America and American Jews, J. The statement about American Jews marrying the same people they didn't marry in Russia is just an example. American non-Jews aren't the same as Russian non-Jews. You can't see that? Even at its most exclusive, the general tone of American culture has always been more tolerant of Jews than Russia's. I don't want to see insane PC leftists screw that up.
"Anonymous" seems too anti-Semite to be Jewish...
Ha Ha. I think I could safely wager that I look more Jewish than you, and my surname is very easily identified as Jewish. Just about everyone who ever meets me, Jewish or otherwise, assumes my background without even asking. In sum, I know better than just about anyone my age what a curse it is to be Jewish.
In sum, I know better than just about anyone my age what a curse it is to be Jewish.
Ha Ha
You seem a bit too hostile to Jews to be us. Where does your attitude come from?
I'm not hostile to Jews, per se. I hate neither myself nor my kind. However, I am hostile to the prevailing ideology of PC liberalism among Jews, and I have no greater love for traditional Jewish religiosity. That doesn't leave a lot of room for common feeling. And I truly cannot stand it when I am just assumed to hold the most ridiculous PC liberal opinions. In some ways, that situation is a barometer for how other people perceive mainstream Jewish opinion.
Anonymous 4:08,
Clearly you've never heard of Otto Weininger. Now he was a self-hating Jew.
"This stone closes the resting place of a young man
whose mind never really found peace on earth.
And after imparting revelations of his mind and soul
he could not bear any longer to be among the living.
He searched for the death realm of one of the greatest minds
that dwelled in the house in Schwarzspanierstrasse
and put an end to his bodily existence."
Anon.
You're tone-deaf about America and American Jews, J. The statement about American Jews marrying the same people they didn't marry in Russia is just an example. American non-Jews aren't the same as Russian non-Jews. You can't see that?
From the assimilation/dissolution angle, Russian Orthodox Christians and American Catholic or Protestants are the same. From the antisemitism angle, attitudes vary along the axis of time, and there were many periods when Russian intelligentzia was open and welcoming to Jews, more than the Americans. And never forget when we needed a refuge, the Russians opened their borders to all Jews no visa required and hundreds of thousands Polish and Ukrainian Jews survived thank to that. Things are not white and black.
Yes, if Comrade Stalin had not thoughtfully deported my mother's entire family to Kazakhstan, they would have all been victims of the Einsatzgruppen later when the Germans came thru. Thank you Comrade Stalin![endless applause]
Soviet Communism was not anti-Semitic until its late, decadent period, although it was against religion in general. It is interesting to wonder why the Soviets turned toward anti-Semitism at the end? Stalin's paranoia? Latent nationalism? Everyone hates Jews?
K
Self-hating Jew is sort of a self-limiting species. The Darwinian race is won by people who love themselves and love to reproduce themselves.
My guess is that Weininger was sexually confused and/or unsuccessful... such bitterness toward women and Jews had to have deep roots. History could have been different if only Otto could have gotten a date.
K
K
K,
Stalin hated Jews from an early date, but for reasons unknown he didn't act on it until late in his career (Doctors' Plot, consideration of forced resettlement in a Jewish homeland isolated in the Far East, etc.).
J,
Judaism is a religion as untrue as all of the others and worse from some angles because it is so personally restrictive and tribalistic. Not everyone would react well to life as a haredi, and even some of our ancestors were fed up with that life so that they rushed for the exits as soon as they could. Jewish tribalism may be the key to its survival, but it is also the reason for the periodic pogroms that hit us. Moreover, Judaism has no solution to that problem. Zionism certainly isn't it. Jews are just as hated now that there is a Jewish state, and the Jews there are vulnerable to attack from within and without. They might feel better that they can at least mount a defense, but that's a sorry consolation prize and no real solution to the fact that Judaism/Jewish ethnicity is a tainted brand.
Needless to say, I don't care as much about Jewish assimilation as you do. It sure as hell beats persecution and murder, which preclude even genetic continuity, and you forget that many of the mischlinge are raised Jewish. Fortunately, there is a solution to this disagreement. Since you care so much about the issue of Jewish survival, you stay in Israel. Since I don't care so much, I'll stay in America.
"The Darwinian race is won by people who love themselves and love to reproduce themselves."
K,
Are you so sure that the degraded underclass that reproduces in Western inner cities loves itself? More likely, they just love to f*ck and are too stupid to take precautions.
Since I don't care so much, I'll stay in America.
Could you take your Jewish (???) ass to another blog to blame Jews for "Tribalism".
Perhaps Occidental Observer would be more to your liking.
I would also note that the rate of suicide among the lower classes is very low (actual suicide, not self destructive behavior). Suicide is about have expectations that you can't meet.. the lower classes have no expectations to begin with.
Whatever the reasons, the future belongs to those who show up. There are no more Weiningers and lots of little Niquans and Shanikras.
K
K
As someone born an Orthodox Christian, Stalin must have absorbed anti-Semitism in his mother's milk. But for Jew hater, he sure surrounded himself with a lot of Jews. Nixon also expressed anti-Semitic sentiments but he made Kissinger one of his closest advisers. It's human nature to grumble in private - when only whites are around your grumble about blacks, Obama grumbles about typical white people like his grandmother, etc. This is different than being a real racist like Hitler. Of course, had he lived, Stalin would have put himself in the Hitlerian league vis a vis the Jews. As it was, the Soviet experiment caused untold damage to Jewish culture in Russia.
K
However, I am hostile to the prevailing ideology of PC liberalism among Jews, and I have no greater love for traditional Jewish religiosity.
Anonymous: What kind of Jew are you? Were you born in the Soviet Union?
IHTG,
I'm 100% Ashkenazi as far as I know, was born in the U.S. and have only pre-Soviet Russian-Jewish immigrant connections. Pretty much all lines of my family have been here for around 100 years now. A couple of branches have been in the U.S. slightly longer, but none go back as far as the Civil War.
Also IHTG,
I promise I'm not so weird or inflammatory in real life. I just have strong feelings about some issues, and this post of J's brought them out.
In America you are free to adopt any identity, even Cherokee if you wish. However, you will find unnatural and difficult to assimilate to say 90% of the American people, you will find little in common with American Blacks or Cherokees, and you will gravitate toward professions, social circles, etc. composed mostly by people like yourself. At a certain point you will accept yourself and your inclinations and assume your Jewish identity. Or not.
J,
I attended one of the U.S.' most elite universities for undergraduate, possess a graduate professional degree and work in a moderately elite profession. I attended college with a lot of Jews, almost all of them very liberal, and there were still a lot of Jews in the graduate program but somewhat fewer because of location. There were also large numbers of Asians and Gentile whites at both universities. Because I'm in flyover country, my work situation is not as ethnically skewed as you seem to expect. Jews are represented, but we are too thin on the ground to dominate. Despite the "handicap" of not being Jewish, my Asian and Gentile white colleagues are quite good at their jobs. Granted, we do form a little graduate-educated bubble that is ethnically and cognitively dissimilar from the natives, but it is by no means a Jewish bubble.
I know I'm Jewish, J, and I cannot be other than thus. But my differences with the secular Jewish community over political ideology and my dislike of the religion don't leave much in common with most American Jews. I suppose if we confine our conversations to the best bagels in town...
You are right about one thing, though, J. The differences from the natives will make finding a spouse very difficult in this location, so I'm likely to end up alone and childless. I've accepted the situation because this is about the best employment situation I will ever be able to arrange in my profession's poor job market. So you can take comfort that I'm a dead end if you like.
Anonymous: The reason I asked is that Soviet Jewish immigrants are distinguished by being both secular, even atheistic, but also ultra-nationalist and anti-liberal. Perhaps you should take a trip to New York or Israel and mingle with that crowd.
To the Jewish professional in overfly country:
Israel seems to be the place where American Jewish parents send their daughters to find an American Jewish husband, and it seems to work. Since here everybody speaks English, you may hook up with a local girl too.
People will go extraordinary distances to make a match. My father was living in St. Louis and somehow found out about my mother living in NY, 1000+ km away (and this before air travel was common - a 24 hr train trip was required) and they got together.
K
Hellow. As I am quiet new in Jewish, looking around for some Jewish information> Got something important here. Nice to get it.
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