Rabbi Schweitzer Jozsef, age 90, retired chief rabbi of Hungary, a much respected scholar, was verbally attacked on a Budapest street. Hungary is undergoing a severe economic crisis and is starting to lose its nerves. As usual, they turn to their fascist heritage and antisemitism. My late Father disliked Hungarians, specially the military. I'm starting to feel like him. Pic.: Protest in front of the Parlament. I like that girl.
Friday, June 08, 2012
Street Attack on Hungary's retired Chief Rabbi
Rabbi Schweitzer Jozsef, age 90, retired chief rabbi of Hungary, a much respected scholar, was verbally attacked on a Budapest street. Hungary is undergoing a severe economic crisis and is starting to lose its nerves. As usual, they turn to their fascist heritage and antisemitism. My late Father disliked Hungarians, specially the military. I'm starting to feel like him. Pic.: Protest in front of the Parlament. I like that girl.
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Schweitzer, 90, was approached by an unidentified passer-by, who shouted “I hate all Jews.”
In pre-war Poland, that would have counted as a GOOD day.
Schweitzer should be accompanied by some stout young buchers and the next time someone voices his opinion in this way, they should beat the crap out of them. I think this is a much better way of handling this then holding media circuses with yellow stars. Honestly, this is a side show - the real present day enemies of the Jews are elsewhere. But "never again" does not mean holding kumbaya demonstrations, it means striking those who would do us harm so that they are AFRAID to voice their foul opinions in public. How often do American whites (even the few remaining racists) shout "I hate all niggers" on the streets of an American city? Never, because they rightly fear for their own lives were they to do so .
K
K
There are about 5,000 young Hungarian male Jews in Hungary, in a country of 10 million savages. And Hungarian Jews are not and never were like those proud Polish Jews, we tend to submit and hide.
When there was an attempted pogrom in my father's shtetl, Przytyk, in '36, the Jews organized self defense. My father participated in beating the anti-Semites. He was a little guy but tough and wiry. It's true the Jews were more numerous - in town there were more Jews than goyim.
K
I agree with K. The Hungarian Jew Imi Lichtenfeld, who created Krav Maga, did too. As legend has it, Lichtenfeld organized, Jewish boxers and wrestlers to defend his neighborhood. Ultimately, he had to leave Hungry, and he move to Israel.
Even in New York City in the 1930s and 1940s one could hear people making anti-Semitic remarks in the street. My father would hit such people with a broom and chase them down the street. Yes he had a temper. At one time I would have condemned such behavior. Now older, and I hope a little wiser, I see the point.
"it means striking those who would do us harm so that they are AFRAID to voice their foul opinions in public."
There is a downside to this. The anti-Semitic sentiments don't disappear, they just go underground, fester and become harder to monitor. Voicing Jew-hatred in public is beyond the pale in the U.S., but it has spread like wildfire in internet chatrooms and message boards. Wouldn't you prefer to know who all of those commenters at alt-right sites like Sailer's are and what they are planning to deprive them of the element of surprise?
Why do the Jews in Hungary not join the nationalists? There are relatively few Jews who live there, but they're influential, wealthy, and well-connected and they push the agenda of the EU, of globalism, of the decay of national culture and borders. What do you expect the Hungarians to do? J, if there was a powerful, well-connected Christian minority in Israel that consistently called for the end of Israeli history and identity, that complained at public displays of Judaism, etc., what would Israelis say?
Anonymous, 6:55 AM - go back to your rat hole, please.
K
As the elderly rabbi said, Hungarian antisemitism is not from today. It existed before the European Union, it existed before the Double Monarchy. Yet for your information, Anonymous, Hungarian Jews are superpatriots and uber-Hungarians, volunteering in all the wars of Hungary and goind to fight Hungary's wars - even when disarmed. That is why my Father's and my opinion is that Hungarian Jews are sick, they dont recognize their friends and their enemies.
In addition, dear Anonymous, the European Union is NOT a Jewish project. It is a GERMAN project.
J - there is no point in arguing with such fools. Anti-Semitism is a mental illness. The tin-foil hats will remain in place no matter what you say.
K
True.
I happen to know that all the Jewish groups in Hungary right now support the EU and globalism. They are anti-nationalist, so why should the nationalists like them? In Belgium the nationalist group Vlaams Belang is openly pro-Israel, but Israel and Jewish groups still condemn it and agitate against it. Jews in every European (or Anglo) country push for the dissolution of national culture, for globalism, complain at public displays of Christianity, call for mass immigration from the third world (in Germany, the major Jewish groups even support Muslim immigration). Then they are surprised when the people become "antisemitic."
J, why don't you comment on what Africans are called in Israel, and what measures are being taken against them? Israeli interior minister recently said "Israel belongs to the white man." If a govt. official were to make such a statement about the US or a European country, Jewish groups would loudly complain, the Israeli embassy would lodge a "protest," etc.
You wonder why there is antisemitism?
PS the EU is not a "German" project...the German version was attempted in WW1 and WW2. The EU is an American-sponsored and -invented project of the occupation German govt. (the Bundesrepublik is an illegitimate US occupation govt.)
the Bundesrepublik is an illegitimate US occupation govt.)
Don't be silly...everyone knows it is a Zionist occupation government. Merkel is only a puppet. The Elders of Zion control her every action. Etc.
I hear there is a special sale on tinfoil this week. It is very important to line your hat with it so that the Zionists cannot control your mind with their mind-rays. The voices in your head that you hear - it is the Zionists attempting to issue instructions to you. Resist them at all costs - if necessary blow your brains out to make the voices stop.
K
This Jew-hating Anonymous, like many Jew-haters, doesn't seem to realize that organized Jewish groups and their leadership do not equal all Jews. This is particularly the case in the U.S. where there is no official Jewish community, and the organizations are supported by donations and responsible to boards of trustees made up of wealthy, elite Jews. These groups are much more pro-immigration than ordinary U.S. Jews, as a recent survey commissioned by the Workmen's Circle showed (First graphic in the link below). That's the second survey in the last two years that yielded this result, and the Jewish groups don't like it. The survey unfortunately did confirm another characteristic of American Jews of which I've never been fond - pervasive liberalism.
http://circle.org/wcnationalpoll2012/
K,
I didn't mention conspiracy theories, but OK keep thinking so...that all anti-semitism is a "mental disease." It's what you read somewhere. I suppose so many different peoples all around the world have been mentally ill in history. It has nothing to do with Jewish behavior...keep telling yourself that.
The funny part is that Zionists were actually the ones who recognized that the diaspora is a mistake, and not only because antisemitism was "irrational," but because a lot of what the antisemites said about diaspora Jews was true. The Zionist right used to blame the Holocaust on the German Jewish left, and for good reason.
Anonymous 3:49 AM,
The German Jewish left was less representative of German Jewry than the American Jewish left is of American Jewry. By the early 20th century, most German Jews were middle class and assimilated. Hyperpatriotic and nationalist German Jews were not uncommon (e.g. Fritz Haber). 100,000 German Jews (out of a population around 500,000) served in the German Army during WWI and 12,000 were killed in battle.
Anonymous said...
"I happen to know that all the Jewish groups in Hungary right now support the EU and globalism. They are anti-nationalist, so why should the nationalists like them?"
That is exactly what Zionist thinkers from Herzl down are saying all the time. No matter how nationalist and superpatriots and hyper-loyal Jews are to the country they are living for a hundred generations, they will anyway be accused of disloyalty. I happen to know more than intimately Hungarian Jewry and their monomaniac attachment to the Magyar nation, yet this commenter sees them as anti-patriotic. It is obvious to me that Jews in Hungary should stop their pathetic effort trying to please the majority and should focus in advancing their own nation, that is, make aliyah and build this country.
I would say that mass immigration into Europe, and to a lesser extent the USA, represents the biggest civilizational catastrophe since the Black Death.
It seems to me that the position of Jews in respect of this matter has shifted from general support for immigration, through increasing concern and now, at last, incipient opposition. The next stage is panic and flight.
What has motivated this transition? Firstly, self-interest; as places like Southern California become economic basket-cases, and previously "safe" and tolerant countries like England, France and Norway fill up with imported anti-Semites,the penny has finally dropped that gut liberalism and sympathy for the underdog, or whatever else was motivating Jewish support for "open borders", is only going to harm established Jewish communities in these places. Indeed, the European Jewish Exodus has already begun, just as it promptly did in "liberated" (and newly anti-Semitic)South Africa. This is but one of the tragedies of the loss of white control.
Secondly, as has no doubt occurred to some, that as the impending civil war in Europe looms ever closer, and the beast of White Nationalism strains ever harder on the leash, scapegoats will be sought. Why provide fodder?
Thirdly, those with foresight have realized that there will be few if any places in the world which will be congenial for Jews, once Globalization has run its course; unfortunately, Israel will not be one of them, because without white support in Europe and North America, it will likely either cease to exist, or become much more dangerous.
In the light of this, the actions and opinions of people like Job Cohen in Amsterdam cannot be viewed as adaptive or rational, even from a Jewish perspective (never mind the perspective of the rightful owners of Europe). There are, I think, analogies in the USA. Unfortunately, under stress, whites are prone to making generalizations which might not be justified.
IMHO, the whites and the Jews are going to have to stand shoulder to shoulder, quite soon, to defend Western Civ. Part of this is going to be an acceptance of the ethnostate concept, and it is a two-way street.
In a mature democracy, soft nationalism is not incompatible with tolerance of well-behaved and non-expansionary minorities. There is, I detect, a debate now within Jewish communities worldwide as to how to deal with this issue; or there should be. There are different types of, and reasons for, anti-Semitism; but even if it is misconceived, it is not prudent to dismiss it as merely simple-minded paranoia. If we do not deal with this intelligently, we could both go down.
Anon.
While Jewish elites are agonizing and debating, Jewish working class has taken a clear and forceful decision: "Sudan is not hear!". In the southern working class neigborhoods life has become difficult for Sudanese infiltrators and the ugly head of violence has rised its head. Now they are taking of moving the thousands of untouchable refugees into large camp in the dessert, but the Beduins and the local Jews are protesting - Neither hear is Sudan.
I think the people is more connected to reality than Jewish (and European) elites.
Here, of course, and not hear.
BTW, we in Israel cannot deal normally with the African invasion because the United Nations, the Red Cross and hundreds of NGOs are watching us and documenting every infraction to "human rights". In Egypt and Lybia and other Arab countries they shoot them on sight, and no one sees any reason to make noise about it.
the rightful owners of Europe
whites and Jews
The current occupants of most European countries are not the original inhabitants. How far back do you have to go to determine rightful ownership? Expel the Angles and the Saxons from England? Should America be restored to its "rightful owner", the Indians?
Last time I looked, my family was very competitive in the whiteness sweepstakes. We are as pale as fish. We burn after 10 minutes in the sun. If we are not white, what color are we?
Anonymous makes some good points about immigration but the current policies are not "the Jew's fault". I think we need immigration - immigration has been the driving force of the American economy for 200 yrs, but we need SMART immigration - people whose descendants will be a net positive. It's not clear that's what we are getting now. In some cases, it's pretty clear that we are just buying problems. For example, 2nd generation Mex-Americans often do poorly - they are no better educated than their parents but lack their work ethic.
K
As for Herzl's/J's point, I'm not about to leave my country because of a handful of idiot big mouths.
K
K,
In the 19th century, the U.S. had an expanding geographic frontier to absorb the labor of the immigrants and minimal social welfare to sap their work ethic. You may be right that the U.S. would benefit from smart immigrants, but I suspect that it would be hard to achieve this outcome in practice. First, if any significant immigration is to be allowed, the leftists will demand 3rd world representation. Second, Mexican immigrants are of both the legal and illegal varieties. Without some effort at border enforcement, the illegal Mexican immigrants and their, on average, unintelligent U.S. citizen children won't go away. Ending birthright citizenship would help, but we both know that proposal is politically dead.
Anon. is right that some European Jewish elites are extremely misguided about the effects of immigration. He also makes a good point that not all anti-Semitism is the same. It would be wise to examine the anti-Semitic arguments rationally and confront them. When they are ignored, they don't go away, they fester.
As J pointed out, most antisemitic arguments are totally irrational and have nothing to do with the actual conduct of the vast majority of Jews. You can always find a few bad apples in any race. Anti-Semitism attributes the bad attributes of a few (who, BTW, are themselves barely connected to the Jewish people in most cases) to every single Jews - the taint is in the blood. To me, it is like sorting thru garbage - maybe there are some pearls amid the swine, but it's not worth the effort. Jesus said not to look at the mote in your neighbors's eye but to examine the beam in your own. Anti-Semitism amounts to mote examining/ blame shifting as an excuse for not taking responsibility.
You say that things I am talking about are not politically achievable under current circumstances , but this does not mean that they are not right. And what is politically achievable can change rapidly. George Wallace stood on the steps of the Alabama capital in 1963 and decreed "segregation forever". Well forever didn't last veyr long, did it?
K
I meant, BTW, the pearls amid the swine of anti-Semitic arguments. I was not calling the Jews swine :-)
K
The rightful ownership issue is interesting, and not straightforward.
For example, it is often, and quite erroneously, believed by liberals that Blacks are the rightful owners of South Africa because they were the original inhabitants. In fact, they were not the original inhabitants, the Bushmen and Hottentots ("Khoi-San")were; the invading whites met the invading (negroid) Blacks half-way up into South Africa. Secondly, "South Africa" as a country did not exist at that time, it was just land, mostly sparsely populated, fought over by Black tribes, who had dispossessed the Khoi-San, and in fact continue to do so.
The whites essentially established the country and provided the cognitive basis for its existence.
Without whites, as we have seen, African countries tend to self-destruct.
The history of Australia, New Zealand, the US, Canada and South America is similar, in some key ways, although not in every respect.
International Law has probably caught up with these situations (K, please advise), but at an intuitive level, several criteria seem to make sense: a long history of habitation in an area; a track record of genuine constructive contribution; a willingness to fight and die for possession; fluency in the majority language; and a demonstrated ability to assimilate, at least in key aspects of civil life, with the majority. Race is especially inflammatory, but intuits strongly as well.
The mass immigration that is under way in the USA and Europe exhibits none of these features, which is why I am convinced there will be a "civil" (actually, an anti-colonial war) in Europe, in our lifetimes. Arguably, it has already begun.
The Jews, by contrast, do fulfil many of these requirements, in both North America and Europe. The creation of Western Civ, in all its splendor, is to a large extent a joint effort, especially over the last 100 years or so.
The Jews do have a claim, but as J has commented on from time to time, it needs to be kept in proportion.
By contrast, non-Jewish whites do not have any similar claim in Israel, except in a highly abstract sense, that it is a frontier outpost of the West. There is no particular reason, other than that, for Occidentals to support Israel.
Since Israel will not exist without our support, it behoves Jews, at least pro-Jewish Jews, to consider deeply how to strengthen the West, and our relationship.
I am OK with limited volumes of smart immigration, but what we are being showered with is unlimited volumes of dumb immigration, with the occasional success story being grossly misrepresented as typical.
Anon.
There is no real coherent body of international law on this, at least not one that anyone pays any attention to. In practical application, the rule is "might makes right".
K
The rightful ownership issue is political. Since America rules the world and America believes in democracy, the legitimate ownership of land is based on the majority vote. If democratic elections in South Africa decided that Africans are the owners of the land, the world will go with America. After all, a vote is a vote. That is one of the reasons we in Israel strive to protect our numbers. Only if we are majority we can claim legitimacy. Two or three million African infiltrators (some say there are 700000 already, no one knows) may change the balance and the UN may vote the land to an its "rightful owners" - the majority of the people living here.
Right. It comes down to a competition in irresponsible reproduction.
High IQ people are at a disadvantage here, as I am sure you are aware.
Anon.
It comes down to a competition in irresponsible reproduction.
Pithily expressed. The trend can't hold, though, because the future will offer few ways for all of these excess people to support themselves. Derbyshire has picked up the theme in his latest Takimag column:
Embracing Unemployment
Derbyshire completely misses the boat. He is from the wrong generation. Ask those of age in the Depression what it was like to get a job (if you can find any still alive). Within living memory (i.e. before 2008), employers were begging for people at all levels. It has nothing to do with technology, it has to do with the business cycle. If the "good times" come back, then all this will be forgotten again.
K
We'll see, K. There has never before been automation technology of the complexity that is being developed now.
Every Steam loom displaced thousands of weavers. Every cotton combine displaced a plantation of cotton pickers. Marx predicted a reserve army of the employed who would be pauperized. He was wrong.
K
The real U.S. unemployment rate is around 20%. On this one issue, Marx might eventually turn out to be right.
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