The European Union is worried about (de)population trends and consequences. The epicenter of the phenomenon, in my opinion, is in Hungary. Latvia and Bulgaria have lost more people, but it is because of emigration of the younger generation. Hungarians are not moving out but ethnic Hungarians from Ucraine and other borderline countries are moving in. Even so, Hungary has lost 10% of its population in the last decade and the emptying out of the country is accelerating.Have Hungarians lost their will of life? It can be argued that there are symptoms of self-destruction, like one of the world's highest suicide rate, widespread alcoholism, unimaginable sexual freedom (Hungary is Europe's porn industry's center) and so on.
Will Hungarian become a dead language? Should I start writing down old Jasz-Kun Magyar words of my childhood before the language goes extinguished?
Daban horz ! Good Morning! But I cant write it down (pic).
One thing is sure: the brilliant world-plays of "Juda-Pest" are no more. The youth speaks and sings vulgarly. Hungary may sink to the Bulgarian situation where, so I am informed, the literate generation has died out.
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It could be worse - the Nazis so thoroughly corrupted German that many perfectly good words lost their original meanings and can no longer be used. They had to invent a whole new vocabulary which is mostly American English. Losing all their Jews did not help - German universities went from among the top rank in the world to backwaters, despite Germany's renewed industrial might.
K
The Ukrainians seem to be on a path to extinction. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys.
K
K,
One cannot predict long-term demographic trends from relatively short-term phenomena. And not all Ukrainians are bad. It was an ethnic Ukrainian non-Jew who informed the world about the mass executions at Babi Yar.
The Ukrainians seem to be on a path to extinction. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys.
Behave.
The author of the Holocaust was a Germanic who yeared to liquidate Bulgarians, Serbs, Russians, Ukrainians, et al, nearly as much as he did Jews.
Besides, aren't Israel's Russian "Jews" Slavs who have made good Zionists.
A bit more fairness to the Slavs.
These comments are beneath your blog and Israel has more immediate problems than Hungary anyway
PM Tusk – 'Weak Israel not an option'
Poland will not be voting for a UN General Assembly resolution on recognising a Palestinian state if it harms the security of Israel, Prime Minister Donald Tusk has said.
http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/55407,PM-Tusk-%E2%80%93-Weak-Israel-not-an-option
Peres welcomes president of Ukraine
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=247726
Since then, he said, a dynamic bilateral dialogue has developed, and economic trade, scientific and cultural ties between the two countries have been strengthened.
The implementation of visafree travel between the two countries has helped to increase two-way tourism and mutual understanding at both the government and the people- to-people level, he added.
He was pleased to see the improvement in economic ties, and was hopeful that these would be expanded through the signing of a Free Trade Agreement during his visit. Bilateral agreements in the fields of diplomacy, infrastructure and medicine were signed in the presence of the two leaders.
Hungarians are not Slavs but a coalition of Central Asian tribes. Among them the Jasz (Jagydians) and the Kun (Petcheneg in Russian) and the Szekely (Sekler) and so on. Their dying off after 1000 years in Central Europe is a mystery.
Their dying off after 1000 years in Central Europe is a mystery.
Surely surrounding Slavs contributed to modern Hungarian phenotype?
I dont know. Hungary always received immigration from the West. It appears that even the so called Transylvania Dutch arrived from Holland. There are physical barriers separating Ucraine and Hungary.
I don't think I've ever seen a press release between two countries who were no actual enemies that conveyed LESS warmth or emotion. The same press release could have been written about a visit by the President of Nepal or Chile. Remember that Ukraine was a major Jewish center for 1000 years.
K
Hungarians are not Slavs but a coalition of Central Asian tribes.
The original Magyars were a coalition of Central Asian tribes, but the population genetic evidence clearly shows that they did not leave much influence on the modern population that describes itself as Hungarian. The last autosomal DNA-based study that I read showed them to be closer to Germans than to Slavs.
I don't think I've ever seen a press release between two countries who were no actual enemies that conveyed LESS warmth or emotion. The same press release could have been written about a visit by the President of Nepal or Chile.
But you said Ukraine was an enemy state. At worst it is a neutral party.
Remember that Ukraine was a major Jewish center for 1000 years.
It was a Ukrainian center for longer and it would have belonged to neither Ukrainians nor Jews if Adolf had his way and turned it into a racially cleansed German colony.
Look, what the Germans did was far worse, or at least equally bad, and Germany is not an enemy state. In Germany there has been some taking of responsibility for and recognition of their crime and now there can be forgiveness and reconciliation. Ukrainians are still in denial . Maybe the Germans long term plan was to cleanse both the Ukrainians and the Jews but they didn't act on the 1st part at all - how many Ukrainians were sent to Auschwitz (other than as camp guards)?
K
In Germany there has been some taking of responsibility for and recognition of their crime
Ukrainians are still in denial .
There was no collective Ukrainian crime because "Ukraine" did not have a Ukrainian government at the time.
Ukraine a German administrative district until they were driven out by Russia.
Maybe the Germans long term plan was to cleanse both the Ukrainians and the Jews but they didn't act on the 1st part at all - how many Ukrainians were sent to Auschwitz
Hitler did not kill as many Slavs as he wanted because he had resources diverted elsewhere. He ordered Kiev to be wiped out with incendiary bombs. These plans were cancelled because his bombs were tied up on the Eastern Front.
Still, out of 2.5 million Ukrainian civilians, only 600,000 were Jews. The the remainder were Ukraine gentiles. Another 2 million Ukrainians were taken to Germany as slave labor.
This doesn't include millions of combat deaths Ukraine lost to defeat Germany.
There were Ukrainian camp guards, but they were not controlled by the abolished Ukrainian government. There were also Jewish collaborators with Hitler's Final Solution (e.g. George Soros) should you apologize for your "role" in the Holocaust?
I don't believe in collective crimes at all. These people, on the other hand, can go to hell:
http://www.firstpost.com/topic/event/world-war-ii-ukrainian-and-russian-neonazis-raise-arms-in-a-na-image-0exuf7NePJ4sQ-75264-1.html
K
For what it's worth, K, there are neo-Nazis and Nazi sympathizers in the U.S. as well. Even India has Nazi sympathizers, and Nazi imagery is popular in East Asia, although I'm not sure some of the people in those countries really understand what the Nazis did.
"I don't believe in collective crimes at all."
Then what is your issue with modern Ukrainians?
That they continue to idolize war criminals like Shukhevych and Bandera. Not such marginal neo-Nazis but the mainstream refuse to divorce themselves from such murderous bastards. The German government doesn't put Hans Frank on postage stamps.
K
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